Shimano R9100 P Testimonial|Dura-Ace Power Meter FC-R9100- P In this in-depth Shimano R9100 P Testimonial, we will certainly check out Shimano’s only own-branded power meter as we enter into2020 Allow’s start with a recap, which may be sufficient for many people, and after that I’ll comply with that instantly listed below with all the sustaining information for those that desire it.

Recap

  • Rate – 85%

  • Evident Precision – 80%

  • Develop High Quality & Style – 80%

  • Functions, Consisting Of Application – 90%

  • Visibility & Compatability – 95%

86%.

Recap

The Shimano R9100 P deserves taking into consideration if you remain in the marketplace for a power meter.

If you just intend to utilize them on one primary bike after that a dual-sided, crank-based option like the R9100 P makes good sense. Include terrific battery life, great appearances as well as compatibility with the pedals of your selection after that I would certainly acknowledge that my normal recommended alternative of a pedal-based option could look much less appealing than the Shimano.

Getting your very first power meter IS overwhelming as well as you will certainly be stressing over weight, precision, damages as well as cost. NONETHELESS a year down the line as well as maybe basic points like clipping right into an annoyingly-balanced pedal power meter that could make you be sorry for an alternate selection to the Shimano R9100 P.

Pros

  • Excellent appearances
  • Shimano/Speedplay cleat compatibility using any type of pedal you like include
  • Workable overall power information
  • 75 g extra weight
  • Fantastic battery life
  • Long lasting, much less susceptible to damages than a pedal-based option
  • Easy, day-to-day calibration
  • ANT+ as well as Zwift assistance using Ble
  • Uncomplicated setup
  • Producer pedigree
  • Additional pedalling metrics that you’ll never ever make use of.

Disadvantages

  • RRP is expensive yet in 2020 the R9100 P is currently for sale at much more reasonable costs than the RRP
  • Although switching in between bikes is simple, you would certainly require a structure magnet for tempo on each bike
  • Unpredictabilities regarding LR power equilibrium as well as tempo in some use circumstances

Shimano R9100 P History & Future

The R9100 P began delivering to actual clients at the backside of 2017 as well as, ever since, has actually transformed really bit in regards to firmware functions. After that, as well as currently, the R9100 P’s specification was/is really good with great battery life as well as an appropriate, declared precision degree. It strikes the essential switches that individuals desire in regards to the type of information it sends (L/R+ tempo) as well as the transmission procedures it makes use of ie BLE as well as ANT+. It does not stand for, to me, a significant boost in weight as well as it sustains every little thing I would certainly desire from a Dura-Ace crank because it ‘supports’ Shimano’s regular chainrings, BB as well as built steel building (Hollowtech II).

Yet truly this item is Shimano’s tipping rock to their power meters of the future as well as they needed to begin someplace. Completion video game sees firms like Shimano providing a brand-new power meter on the majority of brand-new ‘performance bikes’, so also the future matching of a Shimano 105 groupset will possibly, in a couple of years time, come pre-bundled with a power meter or, otherwise, there will certainly be just a little costs for you to pay to update to one.

The aftermarket for the similarity Favero’s Assioma (which I enjoy) will certainly end up being a progressively difficult location for them in which to maintain a grip.

Yet you’re maybe considering getting one CURRENTLY, so allow’s go back to today. Well, allow’s return a couple of months, when I initially placed this onto my 2020 bike.

Shimano R9100 P Testimonial|Dura-Ace Power Meter FC-R9100- P

Shimano R9100 P– Component & Installment

Shimano R9100 P Testimonial|Dura-Ace Power Meter FC-R9100- P

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I locate getting a crankset a little bit overwhelming.

Will it fit the size as well as size of the lower brace bearing that remains in your bike currently? If it will not you can obtain a brand-new lower brace yet to shorten a rather swollen conversation on bearings, I have actually consisted of the main R9100 P requirements, listed below, where you can see, for instance, it sustains the fairly conventional, Shimano BB-R9100 (I have ROTOR bearings).

Ask & sustain your Neighborhood Bike Store.

Shimano R9100 P Testimonial|Dura-Ace Power Meter FC-R9100- P

Package features a couple of even more items than you could anticipate, they’re all required. There are a couple of unique little bits to assist with the setup, a cable television for billing as well as a few other little bits to pretty-up the ended up setup.

Shimano R9100 P Testimonial|Dura-Ace Power Meter FC-R9100- P

Shimano R9100 P– Style Components

I suggest, it’s a Dura-Ace crankset with some little bits stuck on right?

In the beginning glimpse of the photo over, that declaration appears real. You obtain both ‘pods’ on the internal face of each crank. Yet think about after that exactly how they obtain their electric power.

As you can see from the adhering to layout, the battery remains in the axle as well as connected to both coverings in addition to to the outside billing port.

Shimano R9100 P Testimonial|Dura-Ace Power Meter FC-R9100- P

Photo Resource: Shimano using dcrainmaker.com, clicks to DCR.

The benefit to Shimano of this ‘integrated’ style is that their sensing unit coverings can be smaller sized than, claim, the similarity 4iiii or Phases that additionally include their devices to Dura-Ace cranks. Possibly the tiny coverings look much better? not that you ever before truly see them.

Yet after that to obtain the power from the battery to the left-side sensing unit needs the adhering to fiddly-looking port. Although in truth you merely press it in.

Shimano R9100 P Testimonial|Dura-Ace Power Meter FC-R9100- P

It appears & looks even worse than the truth, as soon as the cap is put over it you would certainly never ever understand it existed.

After that we concern the billing port itself on top of the crawler on the adhering to photo. You can undoubtedly see this yet I would certainly claim it’s gently incorporated in an inconspicuous fashion right into the style.

Shimano R9100 P Testimonial|Dura-Ace Power Meter FC-R9100- P

The entire cap rotates off to expose the billing port. Appears basic? No. I opened it prior to placing it on my bike as well as messed around a little bit. Ultimately, a couple of weeks later on, it was all set up as well as all set to go yet I had not billed the PM up. So I needed to open up the port with the bike hanging off a wall surface install. It would not open up as well as I would certainly failed to remember (for sure) which method it opened up. Clearly I can have required it yet after that I remembered its pivot was a plastic secure of some type. I needed to describe the guidebook to determine which method to open it! Simply in instance. After that I struck it with a screwdriver as soon as I recognized for specific I had not been mosting likely to damage it

It billed up which ought to do me for a couple of months. Through which time I will certainly have failed to remember which method it opens up once more #Sigh.

You can additionally see a small little switch on the photo over. You push that for ‘blue light mode’ also known as pairing to the E-Tube application after the setup or for a forced calibration individually of a headset.

Installment

The setup is simple as well as with the right devices you ought to have the ability to obtain it up as well as running in between 10 as well as 60 mins– I’m a nearer a 60- than 10- individual for brand-new tasks such as this;–RRB-. I’m anticipating to change this over to various other bikes regularly in the future which will certainly have the exact same BB as well as specific very same tailoring, I’m wishing for 10 mins for such succeeding installs.

The one point that attracts attention is that the tempo information originates from a magnet that you need to attach to your framework. The majority of brand-new PMs currently determine this inside from their accelerometer, nevertheless, this is just mosting likely to trigger you an issue if you intend on relocate to various other bikes. Which I might.

Shimano R9100 P Testimonial|Dura-Ace Power Meter FC-R9100- P

Keep in mind the white magnet

Shimano R9100 P– Connection to Sensors & Applications

You set by BLE (Bluetooth Smart) to your smart device for the tool upkeep and after that by ANT+ to several synchronised tools such as your watch or head system. You can additionally match to one BLE watch, head system or application eg Zwift.

Shimano R9100 P– E-tube Application

The Shimano E-Tube application is additionally utilized if you need to handle your Di2 arrangement as well as the performance in the E-tube application that’s exclusively made for the R9100 P is restricted yet enough. There are some photos from the iphone as well as Android applications listed below– both applications appear similar to me. In recap, the application allows you

  • See battery standing
  • Examine firmware variation
  • Update firmware
  • Enable ANT+ and/or BLE link from the R9100 P. BLE can be convenient for Zwifters, others many people could obtain a couple of even more hrs of battery life by disabling it
  • Execute an absolutely no countered calibration
  • Sight yet not conserve power as well as tempo

Over numerous days, abnormally, I discovered pairing to the Android application functioned much better than iphone.

Firmware Update Background

Update to the most up to date variation of the firmware for the most precise outcomes.

Right here is the complete variation background (right here) as well as the variation I utilized was 4.1.7 as well as I did the upgrade from 4.0.7, utilizing the Android 3.4.3 variation of E-Tube.

Sensing Unit Pairing & Sensing Unit Information Kind

Shimano R9100 P Testimonial|Dura-Ace Power Meter FC-R9100- P

820 (Ant+), Vantage V (BLE), Karoo (BLE-only made it possible for), Elemnt (ANT+ discovered)

Pairing resembles any type of various other sensing units as well as is, practically, set as well as fail to remember. After combining it simply functions, rotating the cranks ought to suffice to wake the PM up, otherwise briefly press the switch as soon as.

I would certainly favor ANT+ over BLE any type of day as well as with the Shimano R9100 P, this offers you additional geekery with Pedal Level of smoothness (PS) as well as Torque Performance (TE) metrics. Right here’s what is sent

  • Power
  • Left/right power equilibrium
  • Tempo
  • Battery degree info
  • Pedal level of smoothness (ANT+ just)
  • Torque efficiency (ANT+ just)

Just 1 BLE link is sustained, so attempt to at the same time match to Zwift as well as your Polar Vantage V as well as just one of those will certainly function.

Shimano R9100 P– LEDs

  • Blue– system is billing
  • Blue turns off– system is 100% billed
  • Environment-friendly– battery degree mores than 16% (see the application or head system metrics for an evaluation of the degree)
  • Red– 3-15% cost
  • Blinking Red– 1-2% cost
  • Press as well as hold switch to obtain a Blue light begin a hand-operated no countered when the blinking quits … it’s done. there is no LED indicator of stop working or pass of the calibration.

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SHIMANO R9100 P– Technical Headings

The requirements remain in the following area. Much of that, to me, is as well techy so right here are the essential elements of the R9100 P as I see them

  • Closed/integrated electrical system
  • Own established stress scale (not always great or negative)
  • Water Resistant
  • BLE (solitary) as well as ANT+
  • Integrated rechargeable Li-ion battery providing 300+ hrs of flight time
  • Quickly transform chainrings without influencing power
  • Asserted 2% precision
  • Integrated, out-of-the-box style
  • Energetic temperature level payment
  • The 4 equipment arms are not uniformly spaced
  • Excellent clearance of coverings with framework

SHIMANO R9100 P– REQUIREMENTS

These are the Shimano R9100 P requirements according to Shimano

VERSION NO Shimano Dura-Ace FC R9100- P Power Meter Hollowtech II Crankset
COLLECTION DURA-ACE R9100 Collection
Colour Collection colour
Ordinary weight power variation includes regarding 75 g extra weight to Dura-Ace cranks

696 g (53-39 T), 695 g (52-36 T), 685 g (50-34 T)

normal Dura-Ace crankset weight

621 g (53-39 T), 609 g (50-34 T)

Statements With power meter. Li-ion. Ranked voltage: 3.7 V. Ranked ability: 0.66 Ah. Ranked ability: 2.442 Wh
HOLLOWTECH II Modern Technology Yes
Chain line (mm) 435
Chainring mix 55-42 T (alternative), 54-42 T (alternative), 53-39 T, 52-36 T, 50-34 T
Suitable BB kind Outboard
Suitable chain HG-EV 11- rate, HG-X11
Crank Arm Size 170 mm, 172.5 mm, 175 mm
Equipment arms 4
HOLLOWGLIDE Yes
HOLLOWTECH Modern Technology Yes
Optional Chain Guard Without chain guard
P.C.D. (mm) 110
Back rates 11 (I can not see why it would not sustain 10 spd, as an 11 spd chain services 10 spd cassette)
Advised BB_Pressfit SM-BB92-41 B
Advised BB_Threaded (regular) BB-R9100
Threaded BB Covering Size 68 mm, 70 mm
Consists Of Crank Arm Dealing With Screw Yes
Q-factor (mm) 146

SHIMANO R9100 P– Customer Guidebook

Below it is: Shimano-R9100 p-power-meter-manual

SHIMANO R9100 P– Daily Usage

Similar To any type of various other power meter, you execute a dismounted, day-to-day calibration with the bike as well as the cranks both upright.

5050 is the appropriate action for a watch/computer calibration, perhaps that ways 50 left as well as 50 right … IDK. Or else, with the Shimano application, you obtain a tick when calibration is passed whereas, with the button-press calibration straight on the R9100 P itself, there is no responses of pass/fail simply responses that the calibration has actually finished when the light quits blinking blue.

Shimano R9100 P Testimonial|Dura-Ace Power Meter FC-R9100- P

The calibration appears to constantly function as well as the R9100 P is a ‘just works’ tool. There are no evident problems with calibration. If it’s the only power meter on your bike you would certainly ignore the accuracy of the information. If you would certainly ridden various other appropriate power meters prior to after that, once more, you would certainly ignore the accuracy of the information also if you are revealing fives smoothed power.

Aesthetically on the head system, the reported heading power degrees appear right as well as the tempo appears right when I contrast to various other PMs

I have a pedalling discrepancy, something like 52: 48 (L: R), which I am proactively attempting to remedy with toughness as well as adaptability operate in the fitness center. As a result, I am not 100% certain of what I am seeing with the power equilibrium, ostensibly I would certainly claim that the appropriate side is somewhat under-reporting my discrepancy yet, as the overall power appears great, after that I’m just mosting likely to have the ability to describe that AFTER the exercise checking out precision … which remains in the following area.

BTW: I’m not completely certain that Any One Of the fancier metrics PS/TE as well as any type of type of equilibrium are precise on ANY tool around. Yet that’s an additional tale completely. As well as yet an additional tale would certainly examine whether it mattered all the same.

SHIMANO R9100 P– on Pro Teams

The adhering to groups are ALL funded by Shimano to make use of the R9100 P in 2020: Astana Pro Group, BORA Hansgrohe, CCC Group, Deceuninck, Equipe Cycliste Groupama-FDJ, Mitchelton-SCOTT, Group Bahrain McLaren, Group INEOS, Group Jumbo Visma as well as Group Sunweb.

OK, they are paid-for partnerships yet the pros either obtain some usage out of the R9100 P or do not look at/analyse the numbers it generates. I would certainly picture it’s the previous.

SHIMANO R9100 P– Precision Screening

For the objectives of this Shimano R9100 P Testimonial, I can just examine 3 synchronised tools, inside such as this: Kickr 2017 + Wahoo tempo sensing unit; Shimano R9100 P; Assioma Duo. When I go outdoors I just have 2 tools so I do not understand which one is right.

I have actually obtained a Phases Gen3 Double as well as Garmin Vector twin also. Yet the Vectors are not as precise as the Assioma so I never ever utilize them as well as I’m not going to squander my time utilizing them for the objectives of these examinations … to make sure that’s that. Sorry! I have actually obtained some ‘peripheral’ PMs as well yet they aren’t mosting likely to assist with contrasts as well as, as you can think, I require a PowerTap G3 to contrast 3 tools outdoors yet have not obtained one. I’ll later on as well as individually upload the Phases Gen3 numbers contrasted to the Kickr/Assioma which could after that allow me presume features of the R9100 P.

I have actually done the GPLAMA examination as well as those data are readily available for any individual that likes utilize them. For various other exercises, I’ll reveal a few of the intriguing statistics of those flights.

Recap: Evaluating by variations to various other tools it appears affordable for me to claim that the R9100 P a minimum of fulfills the ordinary precision insurance claim by Shimano. The R9100 P, if anything, has a tendency to somewhat overstate overall ordinary power as well as could also ignore my right-side power.

Right here are information of the precision examinations in a different message

Shimano R9100 P Precision

What Next?

I question that the Shimano R9100 P will certainly obtain anymore considerable firmware updates as well as I question the present style will certainly be made right into an Ultegra variation.

Rather, a Dura-Ace R9200 P can come Q1/Q2.2021 Yet make indisputable, it WILL CERTAINLY come. It’ll likely be relatively various: maybe re-designed with 5 equipment arms; absolutely, it will not require an exterior magnet; perhaps with a brand-new Hollowtech II cast as well as it will possibly declare a little greater degree of precision. Possibly there will be an Ultegra variation right after that, that recognizes?

A Lot More Words & A Recap

I such as the normal R9100 cranks, so adding a power meter makes good sense to me in the situation of either an accident-induced substitute crankset or a Dura-Ace upgrade reward for your only bike. As well as if you as well as your friends have Shimano groupsets after that you feel in one’s bones that you all truly wish to have Dura-Ace jazzed up around your little bits … in a manner of speaking. (I’m explaining me right here … I’m superficial as well )

Nonetheless, I DO favor my Assioma pedals for a great deal of factors OTHER THAN those freakin’ APPEARANCE cleats on the ASSIOMA have actually truly begun to hack me off. I have actually finished simply a number of flights with ONLY the R9100 P as well as my old Ultegra pedals (ie nothing else PM existing), undoubtedly I have actually not ridden with Ultegra pedals a lot for a couple of years currently yet I inform you on those couple of events of euphoric Utegra pedalling, it was an outright pleasure to obtain my feet back in my odiferous, old footwear with the Shimano cleats as well as never ever fear the ideas on unclipping/re-clipping at joints. You possibly really did not wish to listen to that ‘trivial’ remark when thinking about getting a $/ ₤/ Eu1000 power meter/crankset … yet eventually, it’s specifically those points that are necessary ie the biking points you need to do once more as well as time and again as well as once more.

Virtually everybody that makes use of a half-decent power meter will certainly inform you that, once the preliminary enjoyment subsided, they NEVER EVER check out any one of the fancier metrics that the power meters program. Nevertheless, if you are a Garmin/Wahoo Zwifter without an ANT+ dongle after that you feel in one’s bones that you will certainly desire that BLE network in addition to the ANT+ one. The exact same disagreement uses if you make use of any one of the various other prominent fitness instructor applications. So, all is great in this regard yet, naturally, the majority of contending power meters nowadays will certainly provide you ANT+ as well as BLE as well.

Ultimately the precision. You have actually maybe not clicked via to see the information of what I discovered yet if you check out those contrast graphes they were typically pretty-much identical-looking at a high degree. If you’re just utilizing one power meter or more+ of the exact same power meter after that the Shimano R9100 P is mosting likely to be flawlessly great– despite fives smoothing on your headset, you would not have the ability to discriminate to an additional PM. The lower line was that although I have an equilibrium problem I do not look a lot at the equilibrium information– so I’m just thinking about the heading power number.

Recap: Ultimately, they correspond sufficient for me; they’re rather, with the appropriate branding for me as well as I reach utilize my recommended Shimano cleats.

Rate, Schedule & Price Cuts

The RRP is ₤149999 yet also at the time of posting, you can obtain these marked down at Shake (web link listed below) for ₤108899 or Tredz for ₤1399 or Ribble for ₤99999

In the UNITED STATES, Affordable Bicyclist has these from $137600 which is less expensive than Brilliant Training now ($154999)

Rates will certainly differ as well as heaven banner listed below offers you an option of merchants to assist you look around in your regional nation.

Shimano R9100 P Testimonial|Dura-Ace Power Meter FC-R9100- P

Recap

  • Rate – 85%

  • Evident Precision – 80%

  • Develop High Quality & Style – 80%

  • Functions, Consisting Of Application – 90%

  • Visibility & Compatability – 95%

86%.

Recap

The Shimano R9100 P deserves taking into consideration if you remain in the marketplace for a power meter.

If you just intend to utilize them on one primary bike after that a dual-sided, crank-based option like the R9100 P makes good sense. Include terrific battery life, great appearances as well as compatibility with the pedals of your selection after that I would certainly acknowledge that my normal recommended alternative of a pedal-based option could look much less appealing than the Shimano.

Getting your very first power meter IS overwhelming as well as you will certainly be stressing over weight, precision, damages as well as cost. NONETHELESS a year down the line as well as maybe basic points like clipping right into an annoyingly-balanced pedal power meter that could make you be sorry for an alternate selection to the Shimano R9100 P.

Pros

  • Excellent appearances
  • Shimano/Speedplay cleat compatibility using any type of pedal you like include
  • Workable overall power information
  • 75 g extra weight
  • Fantastic battery life
  • Long lasting, much less susceptible to damages than a pedal-based option
  • Easy, day-to-day calibration
  • ANT+ as well as Zwift assistance using Ble
  • Uncomplicated setup
  • Producer pedigree
  • Additional pedalling metrics that you’ll never ever make use of.

Disadvantages

  • RRP is expensive yet in 2020 the R9100 P is currently for sale at much more reasonable costs than the RRP
  • Although switching in between bikes is simple, you would certainly require a structure magnet for tempo on each bike
  • Unpredictabilities regarding LR power equilibrium as well as tempo in some use circumstances
Shimano R9100 P Testimonial|Dura-Ace Power Meter FC-R9100- P

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