The opinion of Clément Tymar (Fécamp)

on the town of SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE

 

Tough

Having lived in many towns in the Val d’Orge, I can say that Saint-Michel, where I lived for 3 years, is the one where I felt the least comfortable… Dormitory town par excellence, disfigured by the large complexes, Saint-Michel lives in the shadow of its neighbour Sainte-Geneviève. Undermined by changing and antagonistic municipal teams, saint-michel is struggling to find a coherent urban policy.

What I like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE Its proximity to sainte-geneviève-des-bois The old quarter under the station (rue d’enfer for example) the barley park to breathe a little. Not to be totally negative, the efforts of renovations (still in progress) brought to the district of the wood of the rocks which comes back from afar: cut throat dirty and dilapidated 20 years ago, it’s slowly improving, we want to believe it!

What I don’t like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The ugliness of the Bois des Roches district, which swallows up most of the municipal territory, the big wooded shopping centre that was extremely unfamiliar in the 90s, renovated to the tune of millions in the 2000s but which is still struggling to find a balance (deserted gallery, gloomy atmosphere). The problems inherent in dormitory towns: incivilities, insecurity. Too close to Paris to take advantage of the rurality but already too far away for practicality. Atmosphere lost city far from everything, it is without regrets that I left saint-michel-sur-orge.

(September 2012)

 

The opinion of Livegen (Saint michel sur orges)

on the town of SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE

 

It depends where you live …

The train station and its line splits the city in two… On one side the new one with its large residences…On the other side its social housing stock with its bouncers downstairs ;).

What I like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE Proximity to Paris thanks to the RER C (30 minutes for zone 5! ). The other transports, when they’re on time. Its small shops The proximity with the zac Croix blanche.

What I don’t like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The lack of civic-mindedness of its inhabitants Its (shabby) rock-wood shopping centre.

(May 2009)

 

The opinion of Erwan (Saint Michel sur Orge)

on the town of SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE

 

Saint Michel ma ville de Coeur

A city that combines the advantages of the Ile de France without its drawbacks.

What I like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The social mix, its public transport service just 25 minutes from Paris, all the amenities immediately around (centre co Grd Bois, Croix Blanche, Marcel Carné…), a feeling of freedom in this town and many preserved green spaces.

What I don’t like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE Lack of consideration for pedestrians, cyclists, despised by motorists. A little political dynamism.

(November 2008)

 

The opinion of Maryse (Saint Michel Sur Orge)

on the town of SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE

 

It all depends on where you live

I think it all depends on where you live, between the old and the new Saint Michael. I, for one, lived with both of them. Above the station, there are all the conveniences but also the nuisances. Underneath it’s much quieter.

What I like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The Barley Valley, trains every 1/4 hour, socio-cultural activities.

What I don’t like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The lack of dynamism when it comes to employment, the long queues at the main post office on Saturday mornings, the wood for the rocks.

(August 2008)

 

The opinion of Christine (Saint Michel Sur Orge)

on the town of SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE

 

You can’t have it all

On the whole the city is quite pleasant. But we must take the trouble to discover what surrounds us instead of negatively criticizing what we don’t always know.

What I like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The proximity of the barley valley, the activities offered by the associations, varied and affordable for many. The cinema and the Marcel Carné space. The proximity of Paris in 25 min by the RER.

What I don’t like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The lack of shops. Non respect of pedestrians (cars parked all 4 wheels on the pavement and no verbalization!). The sadness of the rocky woods district.

(July 2008)

 

The opinion of Marie-Thérèse Jouvin (La Rochelle)

on the town of SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE

 

Saint-Michel-Sur-Orge

The town hall of saint michel is my childhood home, my family is buried in saint michel!

What I like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The park my playground.

What I don’t like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE Everything that has been done since we sold.

(May 2008)

 

The opinion of Marie Pierot (Bois des Roches)

on the town of SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE

 

St Michel

What I like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE Quite frankly I don’t like this town any more.

What I don’t like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE It’s become a city where delinquency is on the rise…

(December 2007)

 

The opinion of Philippe (Saint-Michel-sur-Orge)

on the town of SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE

 

Pretty nice town

I’ve been living there for many years, and don’t want to leave. Although not having known the time (40 years ago) when it was a village of 4,000 inhabitants, and I have indeed seen the last rural areas disappear. But this city has other assets, and is not really what we call a dormitory town, if you’re curious and want to take the trouble to get out of your house…

What I like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE Its train station, frequent RER trains, the Espace Marcel Carné (EXCELLENT theatre or independent film programme at popular prices), the Vallée de l’Orge, park and water features.

What I don’t like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE Too much urbanization, too many cars, and (but it’s related) a rather painful traffic plan.

(September 2007)

 

The opinion of Pascal Frerot (Bastia)

on the town of SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE

 

Run away!

30 years I’ve been here.

What I love at SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The little that there was to love has alas disappeared, the valley and the woods have become glaucous…

What I don’t like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The immobility of the…

(September 2007)

 

The opinion of Sabrina (Saint-Michel sur Orge)

on the town of SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE

 

A city to flee

I have known Saint-Michel sur Orge for 33 years, especially the old quarter that I lived in for 28 years. From a small, very rural town until the 1950s and 60s, it became a dormitory town. What’s happening today in Saint-Michel? A hussard-style urbanization that promises to disfigure the old quarter in the coming years (the only nice place left!): the last big farmhouses are now being attacked: the old barns have been demolished, and the car parks and housing estates in the Cour d’Enfer (whose architecture dates back to the Middle Ages!) are long gone.

What I like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE A more accurate expression would be: what you liked: the village spirit that reigned before; everyone knew each other and customs were respected; the shops in the Rue de Monthléry that were once very lively. The path of the Grouettes, used by many schoolchildren… What I like: a train every quarter of an hour (I knew the proud days when there were only two per hour).

What I don’t like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The contempt shown by local politicians both for the inhabitants (the random cutting sales…) of Saint-Michel and for the town that doesn’t deserve what is happening to it.

(August 2007)

 

The opinion of Vanessa (Saint-Michel-Sur-Orge)

on the town of SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE

 

Positivism ?

I’ve lived in Saint Michel since I was born and I don’t necessarily agree with the people who left the previous comments. I still think it’s a nice city to live in, much more than a dormitory town. We are close to all amenities and for leisure there are things to do, just take a walk around the fountain of the Orme or the valley of the Orge to see it: green spaces, sports facilities … not to mention the Marcel Carné area.

What I like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The associative fabric, the railway station, the shopping centre, the Marcel Carné space, the Vallée de l’Orge.

What I don’t like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The traffic, a feeling of insecurity sometimes, 1/4 hour wait between each RER.

(August 2007)

 

The opinion of Frédérique (Saint-Michel-sur-Orge)

on the town of SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE

 

What a shame

I have lived in Saint-Michel since my early childhood. I loved my town, but the town hall’s urbanisation policy has turned it into a dormitory town and nothing has been done about the traffic, which is becoming infernal. As for insecurity, it has become more than a problem, to the point of worrying about our children. Besides, I sell and move when I thought I was making my life there and a lot of old people do the same.

What I like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The green spaces of the Parc de l’Ormois and its lakes.

What I don’t like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The urbanisation of the old quarter, the traffic, the feeling of insecurity.

(June 2007)

 

The opinion of Alban Séchépine (Saint-Michel sur Orge)

on the town of SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE

 

Saint-Michel sur Orge

Simple town, which could be interesting if there were more dynamism and projects, sometimes simple but concrete things. It’s the station that saves the city, unfortunately.

What I like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The green spaces, the banks of the river Barley, the presence of a train station.

What I don’t like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The lack of projects for the city, the ridiculous library (which should be repaired…), the difficult journeys on foot and by car, the passivity and the wait-and-see attitude (it sometimes feels like in some provincial towns).

(June 2007)

 

The opinion of Yves (Saint-Michel-sur-Orge)

on the town of SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE

 

Saint-Michel-sur-Orge

A small town which, while being close to Paris (25 minutes away), allows you to breathe and, if you wish, to have activities in common with open and imaginative people.

What I like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The Vallée de l’Orge, its lake and paths for bicycles and pedestrians. Community life, very rich. The programming of the Espace Marcel Carné.

What I don’t like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The lack of bicycle paths in town.

(June 2007)

 

The opinion of Pascal Frerot (Saint Michel sur Orge)

on the town of SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE

 

Run away!

Since I’ve been in a stroller I’ve lived and dragged my feet in this city as a young child, teenager, young adult and active youth. And I can’t wait, having become one of those looking for a job, to leave this city that has become a dormitory town.

What I like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE The rare green spaces that make you resistant to asphalt

What I don’t like about SAINT MICHEL SUR ORGE Just about everything is to be reviewed from the beginning, except for a few schools that are doing well, a quality of life that is not so high, a false overall showcase.

(May 2007)

 

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