The error in equating Magog with Russia may be simply found as soon as we learn the claims: they all the time stretch historyto embody the desired geographic location. This is present in each anti-Russia prophecy materials that espouses to use historical past.
To point out the errors requires a ebook by itself, however maybe one instance will suffice; the departed prophecy writer Grant Jeffrey quotes respected historian Rawlinson, Jeffrey says, “The areas… that were ruled by the Scythians are located south of Russia and in the southern republics of the Commonwealth of Independent states (the former USSR).” (Grant Jeffrey, Last Warning, p. 123) Though Jeffrey appropriately quotes Rawlinson to solely have a false conclusion whereas he ignored that Rawlinson is talking of “southern” Russia, which at this time are all Islamic.
Whereas Rawlinson identifies Meshech with Moschi, he outrightly rejects the concept Moschi is Moscow:
Some have discovered within the Moshci the founders of Moscow, the ancestors of the current Muscovites. However this identification has no historic or ethnological foundation, resting wholly on the similarity of the names. (Rawlinson, The Origin of Nations, p. 179, f)
They then love to reference formidable historians like Josephus, Philo, Hippolytus of Rome, Pliny the Elder, Maimonides, and Hesiod the daddy of Greek didactic poetry, however these both merely level to the Scythians as Magog or level to southern Russia and Asia Minor (Turkey).
However once we look at a number of the biggest biblical reference manuals, just like the Macmillan Bible Atlas, Oxford Bible Atlas,The Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Spiritual Information, The Moody Atlas of Bible Lands, The Zondervan Illustrated Bible Dictionary, the IVP Bible Background Commentary, The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary, The Catholic Encyclopedia and The Matthew Henry Full Commentary; all of them find Magog, Meshech, Tubal, Gomer and Beth Togarmah in Asia Minor or in the landmass between historic Armenia and Media (1)—briefly, the Republics south of Russia and north of Israel, comprised of Turkey, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Turkestan, Chechnya, and so forth. however all these are all Muslim nations.
The Bible then units the report straight once we look at Ezekiel 30 evaluating it to Ezekiel 38, we discover “Cush,” “Put,” and “Lydia”. Lydia is not Russia however Turkey, which is the identical as Magog, Meshech, Tubal, Togormah, and Gomer in Ezekiel 38.
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Some even attempt to stretch it by different means so they are saying that as a result of the passage factors to the “farthest north,” as referring to Russia. However the phrase “farthest” is not to be discovered within the Bible which states “north quarters” (v.6) and “north parts” (v.15) during which is the north sides. It is potential this refers to Antichrist who guidelines that area (Isaiah 14:13).
Map displaying Lydia
Gog, because the Bible mandates, is of the land of Magog, a really particular place, and he is the ruler, “chief prince” of his area referred to as “Meshech and Tubal” that are the traditional Moschi/Mushki and Tubalu/Tibareni peoples who dwelled within the space round, primarily south of, the Black and Caspian Seas in Ezekiel’s day. All these are given for locators to pin level the world and are usually not meant to lead us on a stretch as to the place we comply with all genealogical migrations. It is truly far easier than some make it.
The error of the “Magog is Russia” principle arose from the Scofield Research Bible, which identifies Mesheck and Tubal with the fashionable Russian cities of Moscow and Tobolsk later to be popularized by Tim LaHaye and Hal Lindsey’s Late Nice Planet Earth. The one foundation for this interpretation is the considerably comparable sound of the 2 phrases; thus, Meshech feels like Moscow, and Tubal feels like Tobolsk.
Nevertheless, one can’t merely take a phrase from an historic Semitic language (in this case, Hebrew) and discover a correlation to a trendy identify from a drastically totally different language (in this case an early type of Scandinavian) just because the 2 phrases “sound the same.” Whereas this could also be convincing to some for the only purpose of phonetics, it is very irresponsible hermeneutics and is not supported by historical past.
However maybe the best twist in a lot of the works we see circulating the sphere of prophecy is that the battle in Ezekiel 38 is not a battle that erupts prior to Armageddon as is generally claimed however is Armageddon.
Siege of Malta
Why do they insist that it erupts earlier than Armageddon? The reply is easy; Islam as this unfolding prophecy in accordance to the buffs, is involved would sometime associate with Russia’s evil Gog (Ezekiel 38) and would merely be a prelude or else how will we usher in the actual menace, Europe(the Beast) headed by a European Antichrist.
This is the primary drawback that many prophecy academics within the West train that the invading coalition of nationsdescribed in Ezekiel 38-39 is not the military of Antichrist, however of one other military solely totally different, led by another evil world chief who is destroyed prior to Christ’s coming todefeat Antichrist.
However this is pure gymnastics since they can’t overlook that Ezekiel 38-39, which clearly describes a Muslim coalition of countries doesn’t help their European Antichrist paradigm. For this purpose they’re pressured to discover a means to divorce the whole battle of Gog and Magog from the principal pleasure they bought when the European Union started when Greece joined because the tenth nation. This principle fell aside when over twenty nations joined this union. The one backup they use to create their paradigm is that Daniel 9 alludes to a European coalition because the Romans—and by extention—Europeans are who destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem.
However even such references help my view, an in depth examination of Daniel 9, the place the Bible says that it will be the “people of the prince to come” (v.26) are the individuals of the Antichrist who would destroy the Jewish Temple. In different phrases, the ethnic peoples of whom the longer term Antichrist can be the chief would destroy the Jewish Temple, which was fulfilled in 70 A.D.
However once we look at actual historical past, we discover out that the first group that carried out this destruction was the tenth legion of the Roman military (Legion X Fretensis), which was stationed in Antioch. Antioch was additionally the world from which the tenth legion drew most of its recruits of those ethnic peoples.
These troopers have been primarily Syrians and Arabs. At this time, Antioch is situated inside the borders of Turkey, on the southeastern nook of Turkey close to Syria. As such, this is yet one more nail of their coffin and a witness to the notion that the Antichrist would come from the area of recent Turkey and not Europe. Daniel 9 is additionally supportedby Daniel 11, the place Antichrist was prefigured by Antiochus IV Epiphanies, the “King of the North” or the ruler of the Seleucid Division of the Greek Empire which coated a big portion of recent Turkey.
Zechariah 9 clearly lists Yavan/Ionia (Turkey) as the first participant within the Final-Days assault towards Israel. Many could have missed this prophecy due to translation: “I will rouse your sons, O Zion, against your sons, O Greece (Yavan, Ionia).”
Ionia is in Turkey.
The important thing facet of this passage is that “Jehovah will appear over them”.
It additionally appears that Turkey will face Russia: “But news from the east and the north shall trouble him; therefore he shall go out with great fury to destroy and annihilate many … yet he shall come to his end, and no one will help him.” (Daniel 11:44-45)
North of Turkey can be almost definitely Russia. Historical past will repeat itself and it is going to be the Russo-Turkish Wars another time. The outcome is because the Bible declares; “yet he shall come to his end, and no one will help him. (v. 45)” The top of Turkey is probably being by the hands of Russia (north) and different allies (Ezekiel 28:7-Eight).
(1) Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Spiritual Information. Dictionary Version Schaff Philip (1819-1893) Grand Rapids, MI: Baker. Guide Home, 1953 Quantity 5 Web page 14. See additionally Watson’s Biblical & Theological Dictionary, Catholic Bible Dictionary, P.p 324)
Written by Walid Shoebat
“Gog = Russia” is a false prophecy
A response by Daniel Pipes
You appear intent, on placing “Russia” into Ezekiel 38-38, when, certainly, it is not there. The “Russia” craze gained super floor about across the time of the Jesus Motion. A lot of this fervor was little question generated by Chick Tracts. Jack Chick, in flip, drew his theme from earlier interpreters of a specific bent:
“Those that discovered Russia in Ezekiel 38 rested their case partially on the
phrase “chief prince” in verse three, a translation of the Hebrew nesi
rosh. The editors of the 1611 King James Bible rendered “rosh” as
“chief,” however later students argued that it was a correct identify and that
the phrase ought to be translated “prince of Rosh”. […]
“[German Hebraicist] Gesenius, whose Old Testament lexicon of
1828 long stood as a standard reference work, viewed “Rosh” not
solely as a correct identify however as an early type of the phrase “Russia”. In
one other step that may show extremely influential for prophecy
interpretation, he additionally claimed that “Meshech” and “Tubal” have been
current day Moscow and the Siberian metropolis of Tobolsk (Boyer, 1992,
“While certainly not an uncontested claim among scholars, the contention that Rosh was Russia made intuitive sense to many lay people not only because of the similarity in sound but also because Russia was definitively north of Palestine (as described in Ezekiel 38:15 – see the quote at the beginning of this paper) and in a position to attack the Holy Land.”
As you possibly can see, this is a really current understanding, hailing again to the “Adventist” days throughout which the Mormons, Seventh-Day Adventists and the forerunners of the Jehovah’s Witnesses and others have been peddling their end-times situations. “Rosh” (which doesn’t imply and by no means has meant “Russia”) was mis-translated, as a result of these early adventists wanted a up to date nation to fill the place of their predictions. Britain, or Germany in fact, couldn’t be implicated; as a result of these theologians have been largely English- and German-speaking. The ball subsequently landed in Russia’s courtroom. Turkey, which on the time was the Ottoman Empire, was not even thought-about as a result of it was in such a state of decay.
Most Evangelicals right now are merchandise, to a point or one other, of the Jesus Motion; and of pseudo-prophets corresponding to Hal Lindsay and Jack Chick. Their predictions drew from these adventist-era theologians; however their vitality got here from the Chilly Conflict. One would assume that they might have modified their tune with the autumn of the Soviet Union; however alas, Russia has been resurrected as a world bogeyman. Few consider that it truly is, seeing that it has a gross home product (PPP) of lower than a sixth that of the US; however actuality has seldom had a lot of an influence on individuals with deeply entrenched prejudices.
Is Russia north of Israel? Sure, it is: above Lebanon, Syria, Turkey and the Ukraine. In Ezekiel’s day, it didn’t exist. “Russia” happened through the Center Ages, named after a Scandanavian tribe referred to as the “Rus”. Curiously, the dominion arrange by the Rus was not even in Russia, however in what is now the Ukraine; its capital was Kiev. Additionally curiously, Israel didn’t exist through the days of the Rus both.
What is now Turkey, then again, contained in Ezekiel’s day almost all of the nations talked about by the prophet: “Magog” corresponded, by its affiliation with different sons of Japheth, to Anatolia. Javan = Ionia, or the West Coast of Turkey; Tiras is often positioned at Troas or Thrace; Gomer was the Cimmerrii of the Pontic coast of Turkey; Meshech and Tubal have been in Cappadocia, and Madai was in Kurdistan (primarily southeastern Turkey). It requires an actual trip from historical past, to place Magog anyplace aside from Turkey.
Gog is described in Ezekiel as ruling within the land of Magog (Anatolia), and being the “chief prince” of Meshech and Tubal (in Central Anatolia). This Gog was the historic Gyges or Gugu, the founding father of the ruling dynasty of Lydia in Ezekiel’s time; and Lydia was situated within the western a part of trendy Turkey — together with the world of the fashionable capital, Ankyra.
America is on the decline? Have you ever observed how Russia is doing? GDP progress there, between January and July, 2014, was zero.7%; and their inflation price was 7.Eight%. Their financial system is based mostly on petroleum and pure fuel, an space by which they’ve simply been surpassed by the US.
Now let’s take a look at Turkey: GDP progress was four% in 2013, and is forecast to common 6.7% between 2011 and 2017. Their inflation price is a mere 5-6%. Their per capita GDP was $19,080 in 2013, almost as a lot because the $23,589 of Russia. Their financial system is extraordinarily diversified, being primarily in textiles, meals processing, autos, electronics, tourism and mining. Removed from evaluating unfavorably with the US, Russia is possible to be surpassed by Turkey in a number of years.
Lastly, think about that Ezekiel 38-39 doesn’t say anyplace that “Gog, the land of Magog, Chief Prince of Mesech and Tubal” is a serious world energy. It merely says it is a rustic that may assault Israel after the Jewish individuals have returned to their land and turn out to be affluent.
Prophecies will not be meant to be understood, till the time of their achievement is at hand. In this case, the time of achievement was not within the 1830s, when the “Russia” doctrine got here into being, nor within the 1960s, when Jack Chick started publishing his comedian tracts. On the earliest, will probably be fulfilled within the coming years. These earlier interpretations have been based mostly on a world that not exists.