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Ask Hoover: On Sooners D, the CFB Playoff, SEC bias, Big 12 expansion and … the Class 6A split?

Ask Hoover: On Sooners D, the CFB Playoff, SEC bias, Big 12 expansion and ... the Class 6A split?

Can Oklahoma quarterback Kyler Murray and the Sooner offense rating sufficient to offset a probably dangerous day for the OU protection? (AP Photograph/Sue Ogrocki)

Time once more for Ask Hoover, our weekly weblog the place I reply your school soccer questions.

The School Soccer Playoff rankings debuted this week, so there are fairly a couple of questions on the CFP. Additionally, Oklahoma’s Ruffin McNeill will get his first actual check in changing Mike Stoops as Oklahoma’s defensive coordinator when the Sooners head to Lubbock to tackle Texas Tech. Equally, we might ask if Oklahoma State’s efficiency final week towards Texas was for actual as the Cowboys head to Waco to satisfy Baylor.

The sport of the week in the Big 12, nevertheless, unfolds in Austin when No. 12 West Virginia meets No. 15 Texas.

I made a Twitter remark a few Class 6A-1 rating final night time, and naturally that elicited a variety of replies about the state of Oklahoma’s largest highschool soccer class. Prep protection is a bit outdoors my wheelhouse, however I’ve tried to reply these as nicely.

Let’s get to the questions:


Is the committee even making an attempt to cover their SEC bias anymore? The Prime ranked undefeated, 1 loss, 2 loss and Three loss groups are all SEC.

— Brandon Crawford (@Brandon090605) October 31, 2018

Truthfully, I don’t find out about the CFB playoff choice committee having a bias as you’ve implied it right here. However there’s a actual bias — as a result of the prime of the SEC has been so darn good, and due to that, the league now calls for that respect. So sure, there’s a bias, however the SEC contenders have earned it.

The SEC has two prime 10 showdowns this week, so a few of that may begin to type itself out. However the SEC additionally has its annual November FCS Cupcake Weekend arising. That’s by design.

Let’s be trustworthy: the different conferences can obtain that degree of bias (respect) as soon as they begin profitable extra nationwide championships.


If Michigan and OU each win out, and assuming the different Three spots are locked down, who do you assume will get in?

— Bear (@BearFilth) October 31, 2018

Michigan. All day. The Wolverines’ solely loss in that state of affairs can be to a possible playoff-bound Notre Dame. OU’s loss can be to a mean to above-average Texas group. Additionally, Michigan would have extra high quality wins, even when OU is ready to avenge its loss to Texas in the Big 12 title recreation. There are presently a few kajillion iterations of power of schedule on the market, and Michigan’s ranks greater than OU’s in about 80 % of them.

Additionally, Michigan hasn’t been in the playoff but. As one in every of school soccer’s bluebloods, and with one among the nation’s largest and most passionate fan base, the playoff possible would see at the least a small increase in TV scores. Don’t child your self: these issues do matter. That’s one purpose why the doorways are closed in these committee conferences.


What’s it going to take to get OU in the last 4?

— Carlos Lozano (@Carlitol72) October 31, 2018

OU is No. 7 in the preliminary playoff rankings. That’s not dangerous. They have been 15th in 2015, and fifth final yr. So it’s simply in attain to make one other playoff spot.

But when different groups (Notre Dame, Michigan) proceed to win, Oklahoma goes to should do extra than simply win soccer video games. The Sooners are going to need to win massive — that’s proper, type factors. OU can be favored in its final 4 video games (the Sooners are a 13 ½-point favourite Saturday in Lubbock), and if they’re to climb anybody in the rankings, they’ll have to win impressively towards Tech, OSU, KU and West Virginia, and then the following week in the Big 12 title recreation. Tense victories gained’t be sufficient to maneuver the Sooners over anybody in entrance of them.

If OU is just going to run the desk and win shut video games towards Tech, OSU and WVU (perhaps twice), then the Sooners will want Michigan to lose someplace (though a single loss to Ohio State is perhaps counterproductive as a result of it might push the Buckeyes previous OU). In need of that, hope for a Notre Dame loss (at Northwestern, vs. Florida State, vs. No. 19 Syracuse, at USC).

Oklahoma head coach Lincoln Riley loves him some Ruffin McNeill. (AP Photograph/Sue Ogrocki)


What occurs to Iowa State’s final scheduled recreation towards Incarnate Phrase in the event that they wind up in the Big 12 championship recreation?  Each are scheduled for December 1st.

— Jonathan Stuckey (@GeographerJon) October 31, 2018

They’ll simply cancel it, pay the Cardinals the cash owed in the contract and head to Arlington to play in the Big 12 title recreation. No massive deal. That recreation was initially scheduled as a alternative for the opener towards South Dakota State, which was cancelled by foul climate, anyway, so not an enormous loss aside from the value of getting to pay each faculties with no income from truly enjoying the recreation. However revenue from the Big 12 title recreation in all probability would greater than offset the monetary loss.


What’s your Halloween costume this yr? I’d wish to see you trim your goatee, shave your head and stuff pillows at your biceps to go as Matt Hennesy.

— Dekota Gregory (@dekotagregory) October 31, 2018

There’s just one … Matt Hennesy.

Though I aspire annually to decorate up as Rex Kwon Do from “Napoleon Dynamite.”


#AskHoover ought to the SEC be the solely convention that will get the advantage of “beating up on each other?” If not, what different conferences ought to be in that blend?

— Will Chandler (@Chandler23Will) October 31, 2018

If I perceive the query appropriately, the high quality and depth of the SEC accounts for losses to its prime groups (like Alabama final yr) that may value different leagues a shot at the playoff. I addressed this in a earlier query, and frankly, all of us hate to confess it, however the SEC has earned that sort of cache with the playoff choice committee. Look no additional than, sure, Alabama final yr.

The underside of the SEC isn’t excellent and hasn’t been for some time now. I feel that goes for each league. However, I feel Clemson received a move when it misplaced to Syracuse final yr and nonetheless made the playoff. The Big Ten champ suffers an sudden loss yearly and nonetheless will get playoff consideration. This yr, if OU wins out, it is going to have misplaced (once more) to a middling Texas group.

What actually helps the SEC is having a bunch of groups (14) and having a bunch of them ranked (4 in the prime 10, seven in the prime 25). That perpetuates itself by each fame and end result.


#AskHoover if Ruffin retains the OU D in the prime 60 in the nation does the interim go off after the season?

— Josh Tullius (@JCT0824) October 31, 2018

I’ve stated since Day 1, if Ruffin McNeill needs the job, I feel he retains it. That’s an enormous ‘if,’ however Lincoln Riley thinks that extremely of him.

The Sooners jumped from 96th in the nation after the Texas recreation to 59th this week. In fact, an enormous a part of that’s enjoying awful offenses like TCU and Kansas State. However no one can deny the Sooners are simply enjoying higher protection these final two weeks. McNeill has simplified the plan, slimmed down the calls and freed his gamers’ minds to allow them to simply play soccer, and Riley has definitely taken discover.


@KirkHerbstreit and others have talked about how Texas dropping was good for OU.  I don’t see it.  I assumed beating a extremely ranked texas group in a rematch can be the greatest state of affairs for OU.  What am I lacking?

— coach loftiss (@coachloftiss) October 31, 2018

I’m unsure on what this argument could possibly be based mostly. Having Texas beat OSU and keep in the prime 10 the remainder of the season, and then embarrassing the Longhorns at Jerry World to point out what a fluke the Purple River Rivalry was, can be the Sooners’ greatest path to the playoff.

That now falls on West Virginia. OU must beat a 1-loss and then a 2-loss WVU to impress the choice committee. However meaning WVU must beat Texas, which suggests OU could have misplaced to a Three-loss Texas workforce. That’s not a great look, both. So sure, OSU beating Texas final week was dangerous for OU’s resume.

A kinder, gentler second between Tom Herman and Mike Gundy than how the recreation concluded. (AP Photograph/Brody Schmidt)


If the BIGXII would love to be the BIGXII once more, who ought to they try so as to add? Might we get Nebraska again?
Might we land Iowa?
Probably a group in New Mexico or Utah? Perhaps Colorado State?#AskHoover @johnehoover

— Levi Kenyon (@LeviAKenyon) November 1, 2018

Nebraska ain’t strolling via that door. Not with all the cash NU will get from the Big Ten Community. Similar with Iowa. Zero shot.

I’ve advocated for Colorado State, however solely as a result of I’d take pleasure in a visit to the mountains. That’s not lifelike.

The Pac-12 has come off as weak and a bit shaky in recent times due to a scarcity of robust management in the convention workplace and a convention community that’s an absolute monetary mess. There have been rumors of infighting and jealously amongst league members.

That’s one purpose why Arizona and Arizona State have been tossed round as potential Big 12 additions. Each of these faculties (amongst others) apparently have been lower than glad with the new Pac-12.

BYU needs to remain unbiased. Boise State nonetheless doesn’t make a lot sense financially or geographically.

What about raiding The American of its two huge properties, South Florida and Central Florida? As I stated when the league explored expansion two years in the past, the AAC’s Florida faculties have large enrollments and entry to a nearly limitless recruiting base in the Sunshine State.

Their present endowments are small by Big 12 requirements (USF’s is reportedly $442 million, whereas UCF’s is a relatively tiny $155 million; in the Big 12, that’d be final in the Big 12, the place WVU ($566 million) and Kansas State ($506 million) convey up the rear; against this, Tulsa’s is about $1 billion, OU’s is $1.65 billion, OSU’s is $1.35 billion).

However they’ve skilled loads of current success on the soccer area. UCF, beneath Josh Heupel, has the nation’s longest win streak. USF, beneath Charlie Robust, is 7-1. And each faculties have very completed packages in different sports activities that would compete in the Big 12.

As a lot as something, including UCF and USF would open that vein into Florida recruits. That may solely assist the Big 12.


Sweet corn or no?
Will the sooners maintain tech underneath 35 factors?

— Erik Freie (@eFreie81) November 1, 2018

Heck sure on sweet corn. It was my favourite as a child, though I’ll admit the recipe appears to have modified considerably since then (sort of like breakfast cereals). It appears somewhat waxy now. Again then, it was pure, superb sugar.

The guess right here on OU’s protection is not any.

Tech is 10th nationally in scoring at 42.Three factors per recreation, whereas OU is 60th in factors allowed at 25.6 per recreation. I’ll simply take the median of these two numbers and it’s 34.

Right here’s why Tech’s quantity will surpass 35: The Sooners’ offense is fourth nationally at 48.9 factors per recreation, and Tech’s protection is 70th at 28.1 factors per recreation. This Oklahoma offense will rating tons and will rating shortly, which suggests extra possessions for Tech, which — in Lubbock, particularly — means extra factors.

Give me OU 49-42.


Does OU get in over Ohio St if each win out?

— Ricky Browning (@RickyWBrowning) November 1, 2018

Good query.

OU is at present No. 7, whereas Ohio State is No. 10. Clearly, each faculties would climb rather a lot by profitable out. The actual query then turns into rather more clouded: would the Buckeyes achieve 4 spots on the Sooners by beating Nebraska, Michigan State, Maryland and No. 5 Michigan, and then profitable the Big Ten title recreation? The Cornhuskers are 2-6, State and UMD are 5-Three, and the Wolverines are No. 5 in the rankings with a loss to No. Three Notre Dame.

OU in that state of affairs would beat 5-Three Texas Tech, 5-Three Oklahoma State, Three-5 Kansas and 6-1 West Virginia.

Ohio State’s present schedule ranks slightly greater than Oklahoma’s, however OU’s anticipated ending schedule ranks a bit of greater than tOSU’s.

In the convention championship video games, Ohio State doubtless would face Northwestern (possible 5-Four after this week), whereas OU would face both 6-2 Texas or 6-1 West Virginia a second time.

The guess right here is not any, OU would keep forward of Ohio State.


How do you are feeling about the present playoff format? Is Four sufficient? How about Notre Dame not being in a convention?

— SteveCole1 (@SteveCole1) November 1, 2018

Little question, three rounds and eight groups can be enjoyable.

Till it’s not.

The very last thing I would like the playoff to grow to be is an all-inclusive reward only for profitable an enormous convention. Some convention champs don’t belong in the playoff, plain and easy. Keep in mind Pittsburgh? Or UConn? These have been awful convention champs that made it to a Big Boy Bowl and received annihilated. That’s already occurring in a four-team playoff; how dangerous would issues get in an eight-team area?

Additionally, why do proponents of the eight-team bracket really feel the have to fulfill everybody? “Golly, if we grant a space to all five conference champions, then no one will be angry!”

Precisely! And the place is the enjoyable in that? The place is the discourse? The place are the disagreements? School soccer’s outrageous nationwide attraction has been based mostly on one easy argument: my group is best than yours. If we water down the subject to incorporate 5 Energy 5 convention winners and two groups that weren’t even ok to try this and then the supposed better of the runts, that may someway be higher than selecting the nation’s 4 most elite groups? That’s a farce.

Turning school soccer’s biggest prize into one huge, fats participation ribbon would diminish the greatness of the sport, and would completely devalue the superb common season that we now have. There can be no incentive to play these magnificent interconference matchups in September as a result of, hey, simply win your awful convention and you’re in the playoff. It might turn out to be a lesser model of school basketball, which is reasonably entertaining and nothing extra till March Insanity arrives.

Sorry, however I’m having approach an excessive amount of enjoyable watching video games and learning the polls each week for 3 months to only kick the door in and say profitable a convention championship — any convention championship — is sweet sufficient to get you a spot in the playoff.


Is OU sporting the common street uniforms?

— gameday (@JJOKC) November 1, 2018

I’m no gear supervisor.

However the guess right here is that the Sooners are saving their street alternate uniforms for the West Virginia recreation.

OU already wore the new Jumpman house alternates towards Baylor.

So sure, my guess is that tomorrow in Lubbock, OU will put on its normal whites.

Topic to vary.


Texas Tech’s offense scored a mixed 34 factors towards TCU and ISU. What can be thought-about a hit for OU’s protection on this recreation?

— My5HoosierGirls (@LegalBeagle78) November 1, 2018

My co-host Colby Powell and I have been discussing this normal earlier in the week on The Franchise Drive. We determined 35 factors can be a quantity that might be thought-about a hit for the OU protection. However my rating prediction is barely larger (scroll up).


how lengthy earlier than the West aspect proposes a “West side State Champion”?  #EveryoneGetsATrophy

— Jody D (@jodaciousjody) November 2, 2018

When Class 6A cut up into two divisions for the 2014 season, I wrote a column mocking the determination and proposing that Jenks and Union be positioned in their very own two-team class and be pressured to play one another 10 occasions. The OSSAA was not amused, however as we speak, after 5 seasons, we’re not removed from that. With Owasso profitable 6A-1 final yr and Damaged Arrow now a heavy favourite to take action this yr, the stability of energy in Tulsa County has shifted, however in the State of Oklahoma, it’s east-bound greater than ever.

Whereas Owasso and BA have stepped up their teaching and amenities and participant improvement and are placing a greater product on the area, groups from the west aspect of the state haven’t.

With the common season now in the books, the Big 4 are 23-1 towards west aspect opponents this yr with a mean rating of 49-10.

There isn’t a proof that the 6A cut up truly helped Owasso and Damaged Arrow, however trophies and scoreboards present that the hole between east and west has solely gotten greater since 2014.


Hey John, it’s no coincidence that the east sides reign began when Edmond cut up. How about these east aspect faculties cut up to provide extra youngsters a chance to play highschool soccer? Take a look at the different courses which might be decided by measurement. No east/west dominance.

— Greg Blackwood (@gbokc) November 2, 2018

Properly, as defined a bit by the query under, 6A-2 has been dominated by the east as properly (Bixby gained in 2014, ’15 and ’16, and Booker T. Washington beat the Spartans for the title in 2017). If these faculties have been allowed to play in 6A-1, the Big 4 would nonetheless be profitable the gold ball, however these faculties can be ending properly forward of any 6A-1 rivals from the west.

You’re completely proper, splitting BA, Union, Jenks and Owasso would diminish their probabilities of profitable the soccer title. (My son performed at Union and was a reasonably good little participant from sixth to ninth grade, however he by no means had an opportunity to see the area in a varsity recreation at Union as a result of the variety of uber-athletic youngsters that have been forward of him.)

To say it’s merely due to the measurement of a faculty’s enrollment is fallacy. Damaged Arrow has had the state’s largest enrollment for many years and has precisely zero state titles in soccer to point out for it. Profitable all of it in a area as aggressive as Oklahoma 6A soccer requires much more than simply our bodies.

Permit me to supply a counter-proposal.

How about letting the college students at Edmond, Norman and Moore consolidate into one soccer group representing their respective district? They’d nonetheless attend highschool at Memorial or Santa Fe or North or Westmoore-Southmoore, however once they report for soccer, all of them go to the similar area in Edmond, Norman and Moore and play for that district’s workforce?

Then we’ll know for positive if it’s the enrollment quantity that produces state champs, or a faculty district’s decades-long funding in soccer.


Don’t you assume the cut up of 6A has additionally brought on a few of this with numerous the higher groups truly being in 6A-2??

— Drew Hill (@Tulsabballcoach) November 2, 2018

Little question. As I laid out above, Bixby, Booker T. and one or two others in 6A-2 might completely maintain their very own towards Tulsa County’s Big 4 (Bixby beat Jenks final yr; this yr the Spartans are ranked fourth general in the state by MaxPreps) and would personal a lot of the west’s 6A-1 groups. Carl Albert in Class 5A is ranked fifth in the state, and Stillwater and Midwest Metropolis from 6A-2 are No. 6 and No. 7, respectively.

Splitting 6A has eliminated a small handful of west aspect faculties who, given preferrred circumstances, might compete with the Big 4.


Columnist John E. Hoover is co-host of “The Franchise Drive” each weeknight from 6-Eight on The Franchise in Oklahoma Metropolis and Tulsa, and seems all through the day on different exhibits on The Franchise. Pay attention at fm107.7 in OKC, fm107.9/am1270 in Tulsa, on The Franchise app, or click on the “Listen” tab on The Franchise house web page. Hoover additionally covers the Big 12 for Sporting Information and Lindy’s journal and is a function author for Sooner Spectator journal. Go to his private web page at johnehoover.com.

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